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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131038" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131038">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="491">@WG-compiler-nll</span> ; the weekly meeting will be held here in this (corrected) topic, starting in 2 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131245" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131245">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>my internet at my temporary location continues to be terrible</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131275" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131275">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>in any case, members of <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="491">@WG-compiler-nll</span> who have status updates to report should post them to the <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be">triage Paper</a>; I see there are already some updates posted there.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131383" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131383">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>i've been semi-following progress over the past week++; I got impression that our main focus (or at least the one that Niko wanted more attention paid to?) was correctness concerns</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131432" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131432">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>((of course continued improvements to diagnostics are welcome))</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131581" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131581">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>for some reason, my browser's rendering of the paper triage document is not including actual hyperlinks for the numbered issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131678">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>or wait, maybe some are just missing the actual hyperlinks...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131737" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131737">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can't see any without hyperlinks at a glance.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131840" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131840">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeh all have hyperlinks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131842" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131842">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>well in any case my internet woes mean I won't be attempted to fine tune the content there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131846">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll leave that job up to you all</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131953" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131953">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>(the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53124" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53124">#53124</a> is missing the link for me)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131968">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I think it is just your end)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132131969" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132131969">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I'm suspecting its some local rendering issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132035">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway maybe someone else can attempt to summarize our status with respect to correctness, here in channel?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132038" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132038">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm getting back to rustc work this week but also I'm in Portland for Rustconf :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132041" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132041">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Just so I can feel like I'm aware of what's going on?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132044" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132044">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's why I didn't fill the doc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132056" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132056">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>(the biggest correctness issue I'm aware of is the issue to respect user-provided type annotations, something that Niko put up a PR for that corrects a lot of the problems there but not all of them...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132139">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've not been too on top of the NLL PRs this week, I think the only correctness stuff going on is the type annotations that Niko is doing.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132156" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132156">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, in case anyone is not aware of it, I initiated the request to "stabilize" the NLL feature about 11 days ago: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/43234" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/43234">#43234</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132171" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132171">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was a little surprised by the protocol here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132179" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132179">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>There's also the "fake access" for  <code>match</code> doing too much access.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132201" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132201">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> Oh that rings a bell; is that a NLL-sound issue, or an NLL-complete issue?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132265" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132265">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>NLL complete</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132269" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132269">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132284" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132284">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53114" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53114">#53114</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132285" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132285">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes okay I think I remember seeing an issue that Niko and RalfJung filed about the fake match accesses...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132357">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm maybe I am misremembering and thinking of <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53198" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53198">#53198</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132426" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132426">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay well in any case <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3ANLL-sound+" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3ANLL-sound+">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3ANLL-sound+</a> is looking pretty good to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132450" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132450">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>(assuming we can fix <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/47184" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/47184">#47184</a> in a reasonable amount of time;  I imagine I can tackle some of it either next week once I'm home (still on PTO but will have better internet and fewer distractions when Logan is asleep)...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132503">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51269" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51269">#51269</a> just needing a test or is there work to be done there?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132504">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>and <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53172" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53172">#53172</a> is looking pretty good too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132530" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132530">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Are the remaining crates there not done because of errors or because it just hasn't been done?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132567" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132567">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51269" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51269">#51269</a> needs a decision on whether the code should be allowed or not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132572" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132572">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think ... <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51269" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51269">#51269</a> does still need a decision</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132576" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132576">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>niko's comment there does not strike me as a decision</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132577" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132577">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>The remaining crates are external deps AFAIK</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132579" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132579">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>but rather as the beginning to a conversation</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132580" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132580">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>:)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132587" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132587">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>The remaining crates are external deps AFAIK</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Makes sense. Is that issue done in that case?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132601">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>so wait are we basicaly done with <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53172" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53172">#53172</a>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132610" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132610">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>So far that sounds like two votes for "closing as task complete"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132617" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132617">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, I'm not sure, I assume <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> is correct.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132659" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132659">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="125246">@memoryruins</span> was the one working on this so he might know.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132768" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132768">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>"external dep" may be a relative notion here...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132784" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132784">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>liblibc is, AFAICT, a git submodule that is hosted in rust-lang/ github</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132812" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132812">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>and libbacktrace and libcompiler_builtins (and stdsimd) are in rust-lang-nursery/ github</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132822">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>So its not as obvious what the policy should be for them, as it would be for say crates that were on <a href="http://crates.io" target="_blank" title="http://crates.io">crates.io</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132827" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132827">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>having said that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132831" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132831">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also see no need to change them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132892">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>so lets just close the issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132132945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132132945">(Aug 14 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I opened <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53351" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53351">#53351</a> after doing the <code>compile-fail</code> migration.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133005" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133005">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Someone who's particularly good at working out whether something is working as intended might want to look at that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133067" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133067">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>i can do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133087" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133087">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>i both have a bit of time and usually am pretty decent at the detective work necessary here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133157" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133157">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="emoji emoji-1f44d" title="thumbs up">:thumbs_up:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133168">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>by the way: <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> I don't know if <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> already told you this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133187" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133187">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>but my usual way to deal with a test that fails in one mode but not another, when this is <em>intended</em>, is to tag an empty <code>fn main()</code> on the test with <code>#[rustc_error]</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133204" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133204">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>if you want me to provide more info on this, I can do so in a dedicated topic after the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133278" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133278">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>((there do remain cases where it still made the most sense to use <code>// ignore-test-compare-nll</code>, but even then I think a lot of those cases are ones where the test is using <em>revisions</em> to explicitly encode the flags for AST-borrowck  vs NLL vs something else when relevant...))</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133288" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133288">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay that's 30 minutes and I'm tired of babbling</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133303" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133303">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>are there any burning questions anyone wants to ask?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133330" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133330">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, I'm aware of that - <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> has pointed it out and you have in a previous PR of mine too. I don't think most of them are using revisions. Not sure why I decided to go with the <code>ignore-test-compare-nll</code> comment but I'll try get that right in future.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133457" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133457">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>well its not a matter of "right" or "wrong"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133539" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133539">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>more like "Felix's way puts more work onto the autotest system, so that <em>must</em> be the best option" ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133587" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133587">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>but seriously: my thinking here is, if you use <code>// ignore-test-compare-nll</code>, then (unless there is some other similar variant test that does cover nll), then that's a case where we don't have anything double-checking when the NLL behavior changes on that case</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133654" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133654">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are cases where that makes sense, but its not an avenue that I'd take lightly.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133674" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133674">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Having said that, I'm not sure how many people take that much care when they see changes to the .stderr output</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133682" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133682">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>there may be some people out there who are blindly passing <code>--bless</code> and committing the results, for all I know...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133735" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133735">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and if that's the case, then all the caution that I speak of is ... well, its not that important then...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133739" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133739">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I'm babbling again</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133757" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133757">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay well if there isn't anything else, then I'm going to see about diving into this list on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53351" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53351">#53351</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132133968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132133968">(Aug 14 2018 at 20:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>That all makes sense.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20August%2014/near/132183854" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20August.2014.html#132183854">(Aug 15 2018 at 16:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>hey all — sorry I missed the meeting — <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> regarding my thoughts on the focus, I do think we want to get all the sound/complete stuff buttoned down, but it seems to me that we're doing <em>pretty good</em> on that front (though we have to finish up the type annotation work). I need to get back to the type annot prob -- though I doubt I will do anything this week owing to RustConf -- but I confess I've mostly been worrying about perf lately.</p>



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